Tony Stark meeting Shuri for the first time goes a little like this in my mind??
Shuri not terrified, Shuri is brave and stubborn and knows she’s smarter than Tony. But she also knows that up until now Tony’s been under the impression that he’s the smartest and he’s the best. So she’s worried, not of him turning out to be smarter, but of him being insulted by her genius.
And they meet and Shuri show’s him her work and he stay’s ridiculously quiet through most of the ordeal, only asking questions here and there. Watching her work with the sand tables as she explains each item in her lab and Tony watches closely.
And then, she stops, cause she’s shown him everything and told him what everything is and she just looks at him and waits for the ‘this is child’s play’ comment and to have to defend herself against a man who doesn’t know shit.
And slowly Tony lifts up his sunglasses and his eyes are fucking shining and his grin is huge and he looks at her like she’s the best thing to touch planet earth and he just mutters, “I’ve never had to say this, but explain that again, and slower.”
This is indescribable, not only does it show Captain America, it also shows Steve. We forget how Steve is an actual human being instead of just being an idol with no problems. Please watch this and support the creator.
y’all notice how black panther quietly but fervently rejects western assumptions about women in non-western countries by not only displaying Wakandan women in a variety of influential positions but by making clear that only outsiders question them
women are shown in all levels of Wakandan society – Ramonda as a trusted advisor for her son, Shuri as the country’s leading innovator, Okoye and the Dora as respected warriors, Nakia as a spy and philosophical compass, unnamed women who serve as tribal representatives and spiritual leaders. it is not at any point suggested that their gender is a barrier to achieving anything in Wakanda.
there’s a moment during T’Challa’s crowning that’s small but very good, when M’baku questions letting a child handle the country’s technological advancement. he specifically calls her a child, not a girl, questioning her youth and perceived lack of respect for tradition but not her gender, which flies in direct defiance of many western assumptions about how masculine non-western men like M’baku treat women and girls.
that moment, as far as I recall, the most any Wakandan man ever directly disrespects a woman. a lot has been made of how much faith T’challa places in his female relatives and warriors, so I won’t rehash that, but it’s Good.
Ross briefly insults Okoye with his assumption that she doesn’t speak English, but 1.) the narrative and the audience both understand this to be an ignorant statement on Ross’ part for which he is promptly put in his place by Okoye herself and 2.) Ross immediately learns and does better. when he wakes up in Wakanda his disbelief is only for the level of the technology, not that a teenage girl is the mastermind behind it, and during the final fight he defers to Shuri’s guidance despite his piloting expertise.
a lot of words have already been written about Killmonger’s treatment of black women: the casual murder of his partner, his disregard and abuse of a spiritual leader, the slaughter of a Dora. it’s just one of many parts of his ideology that mark him as fundamentally misunderstanding Wakanda and being an Other in the kingdom.
Wakanda is a futuristic fantasyland that makes absolutely no narrative room for men who don’t respect the authority of women.
In addition to the Killmonger point –
I love how it circles back to the cultural disparity between Wakanda and the Western world. It demonstrates how similar ideologies – the drive for resource sharing and international responsibly – can appear so vastly different (ie Killmonger and Nakia). It speaks to the cultural environment in which they existed. I believe Killmonger to be a reflection of the internalised toxic values Western society presents poor Black boys – essentially following the well trodden path from vulnerability to violence.
Returning to Ross for a moment – I didn’t read that as disrespect at all? She’d never spoken English in front of him, he had no way of knowing whether or not she did, and she seemed very angry about something. Verifying how much she actually understood what everyone around her was saying was kind of important? His delivery could have been better but…am I missing something?
I mean, it’s a more subtle moment than a lot of the shit Killmonger pulls for sure, but I think we have to consider the implications of a white American assuming that an African woman, despite her high-ranking position, is unable to take part in or understand a conversation being held in her presence. this is especially true given that the movie’s point of view is Wakandan, allowing us as viewers to know exactly how wrong Ross is, and Okoye’s expression and tone when she corrects him, at least to me, seem to suggest that she finds the question an insulting one.
I’m not trying to say that Ross is a bad guy for asking, but it was undoubtedly one of the many examples in the movie of white Westerners underestimating Wakandans at every turn because of their own preconceived ideas.
Also, he asks T’Challa whether Okoye speaks english, rather than asking her himself.
it’s not 😦 that kendrick album is amazing though, I literally haven’t listened to anything else since it dropped tbh
Mozzy – Sleep Walkin (Official Video)
I FOUND THE SONGS!!
the one playing in Shuri’s lab is by South African artist Babes Wodumo – Wololo (feat. Mampintsha)
and the one playing when Nakia and T’challa are in wakanda walking about is by Malian artist Idrissa Soumaoro – Bèrèbèrè (feat. Ali Farka Touré)
also here are other songs that appeared in the movie that are not featured in the Kendrick Lamar Black Panther soundtrack or the Ludwig Göransson Black Panther movie score:
(African American) Mozzy – Sleep Walkin
(African American)Too $hort – In The Trunk (in the opening oakland scene)
(South African) Bhizer ft Busiswa, SC Gorna, Bhepepe- Gobisiqola
Reblogging, favoriting and saving as draft for later
Does anyone have the song from the whole south korea sequence as well? like the one that plays in the casino ?
(someone asked about the full version of this, so here u go)
“Wait,” says Sam, “you had a publicist?”
“For my first five months at S.H.I.E.L.D,” says Steve. “Then she quit. Uh, decisively.”
“Well yeah, she had to keep you in line,” Bucky says with a half-smirk. “How many times did you make that poor lady want to sock you in the face?”
“Lost count,” Steve admits. “I did offer to let her, once. Seemed fair.”
Sam laughs. “I feel like you’re sitting on a story here.”
“There’s no story,” Steve tells him. Sam raises his eyebrows. Bucky’s half-smirk tilts towards a full smirk. “Seriously,” Steve repeats, “no story.”
Interlude: The Story of Steve “Walking PR Nightmare” Rogers, and How For a Short While He Single-Handedly Destroyed the Emotional Health of Eva Laura Ortiz, His Now Ex-Publicist
Because while the world building with @jabberwockypie was fun and awesome, I have entirely too many projects to work on to add this to them. (And now I am going to go nap because tired and ow.)
JabberwockyPie
Also everyone in Marvel seems to have crappy parents, too. *considers* Except for T’Challa, whose parents are apparently awesome, but I haven’t seen BP yet.
Morgyn Leri
*nods*
I suppose the parents of some of the side characters are probably good too, but most of the main characters, yeah.
Certainly almost all the parents we have actual information on.
JabberwockyPie
*nod* The ones we see on-screen or – yes, that
Morgyn Leri
Well, ok. Steve’s mom was a good person, and Bucky’s mom.
JabberwockyPie
I have admittedly not seen the more recent MCU stuff, at least in terms of Age of Ultron or Civil War, just because I don’t really have any motivation to do so
Yes
Morgyn Leri
But they’re also dead, and have been for a while.
JabberwockyPie
*nod nod*
Morgyn Leri
And as for AoU and CW – yeah. Nope.
JabberwockyPie
Frigga was a good mom, I think? Or at least we didn’t have any reason to think she wasn’t, beyond possibly putting up with Odin’s shit a bit too much
Someone – I think scifigrl47? It seems like it would have been her – has a few good rants about how all of the MCU people (and Marvel in general, really) follow this one specific pattern for Terrible Dads (while we are ignoring or fridging the moms)
Morgyn Leri
She’s the kind of mother who tried to be a good parent, but her co-parent undermined that by being an absolute bag of dicks.
JabberwockyPie
Yes,t hat
Like, if Frigga and Heimdell had been co-parenting, I think things would have come out WAY BETTER and WAY MORE EMOTIONALLY STABLE
Morgyn Leri
🙂
There’s an AU to play with. What if more of the Avengers had a better childhood? And in particular, what if Frigga did not put up with Odin’s shit at all, and put her foot down where her boys were concerned?
Steve’s childhood I’ll leave alone, ‘cause it seems decent for the time period (not great, but not horrible because parents).
JabberwockyPie
*nod*
Morgyn Leri
Frigga not putting up with Odin’s crap parenting. Clint Barton’s mom getting out with her boys. Bruce Banner’s mom getting herself and Bruce out of their home situation.
Clint and Bruce could still become superheroes, though their motivations and the how might be different.
JabberwockyPie
Natasha’s backstory is kind of a clusterfuck.
Morgyn Leri
Yeah.
JabberwockyPie
*nod nod*
Tony… maybe if Howard hadn’t been allowed to be such a DICK, and then Obadiah Stane perpetuating shit
Morgyn Leri
Jarvis and Peggy calling out Howard on his shit more.
JabberwockyPie
I mean he’d probably be a LITTLE nuts anyway, because Doing Science and Doing Engineering
Morgyn Leri
*nods* Yup.
But there are things about how Howard treated Tony that other people being a little more “Howard, no, stop” would have helped.
And someone noticing that Obidiah was a bad influence, that would be useful.
JabberwockyPie
Maybe if someone noticed that Obadiah was fucking creepy and it was someone Howard would actually listen to
Morgyn Leri
*nods* Yeah.
JabberwockyPie
*considers* Or Peggy could kill him. IJS
Morgyn Leri
😀
JabberwockyPie
Peggy not liking the way dude acts around Tony
Nope you die now
Too bad
Morgyn Leri
Peggy and Jarvis conspire to get rid of Obidiah and make sure it looks like an accident.
Or that he just up and left on his own, and the body is never found.
JabberwockyPie
He tripped and fell. Onto a knife. Twenty-five times.
That too! D
😀
Morgyn Leri
Airplace accident in a small plane.
*airplane
Or a car crash.
Or a boating accident.
Or he took a trip to Europe and never came home, and who knows what happened to him?
JabberwockyPie
*nod nod* It was Mysterious Circumstances. Conveniently
Morgyn Leri
Or evidence comes to light he’s a spy for an enemy country.
JabberwockyPie
But without him around, Howard isn’t being nudged in certain directions
Morgyn Leri
Because then they don’t have to kill him to get rid of him.
JabberwockyPie
Yes, that would be bad. So unfortunate. Can’t trust anyone.
True
Morgyn Leri
Just. Obidiah gotten rid of, and Howard doesn’t have his malign influence, and improvement of the Stark father-son relationship. o/
And actually, having Obidiah be found to be a spy works better.
JabberwockyPie
*nod nod*
Then Howard has to investigate anything Obidiah told him to do ever
Morgyn Leri
Yup.
JabberwockyPie
And question those decisions
Morgyn Leri
And also, it means that later, Obidiah can still be behind Tony’s kidnapping and his transformation into Iron Man.
JabberwockyPie
Also easier on Tony if his parents weren’t suddenly killed off when he was a kid. Like, I think it’s a little easier to tell a parent (or a parent’s memory) to go fuck themself if they didn’t die suddenly and tragically when you were a teenager?
Morgyn Leri
*nods* That too.
… and my brain just went “so, they make sure the evidence that points to Anton Vanko spying for the Soviet Union points instead to Obidiah Stane, and voila, Obidiah gets to go away, and one Ivan Vanko maybe gets to not grow up in fucking Siberia to hate the Stark family for sending his father back to the USSR to end up rotting in a gulag.”
And then I think about Ivan and Tony growing up together and tossing ideas back and forth together about everything, and just making the world tremble, because two geniuses in one place that could do anything up to and including taking over the world if they were interested in doing so.
JabberwockyPie
FOR SCIENCE
Because they get bored a lot
And egg each other on
Morgyn Leri
Yup!
Gah. And have them get a chance to meet a saner and more stable Loki.
Also, add a Bruce who’s less likely to try to fold himself into as small a space as possible.
Two engineers, a scientist, and a mage who is also the god of mischief.
The universe is going to start worrying about what comes out of that lab.
JabberwockyPie
Saner, more stable Loki, who – while very much a fan of mischief and the specific subset of mischief that is “screwing with his brother” – is not nuts
😀
Morgyn Leri
😀
The universe will never be the same.
It will probably be better.
JabberwockyPie
Watching Thor 3 I was just waiting for them to do like an “I’m not touching you! I’m not touching you!” bit because siblings
Morgyn Leri
*snerks*
JabberwockyPie
Also trying to get Loki to do magic so that they can Do Science To It, until he gets bored and takes a break to poke Thor or something
Morgyn Leri
*nods*
And also maybe, with somewhat less terrible childhoods, the Avengers would be better able to communicate, and there aren’t misunderstandings that lead to things like AoU and CW.
I mean, still there’s probably miscommunications, because those happen even when people are trying, but they aren’t going to get to world-ending levels of horrible.
JabberwockyPie
Maybe they can like, talk about it
Or someone will suggest talking about it
Because they’ve all had less crappy childhoods
Morgyn Leri
*nods* Yup.
JabberwockyPie
And at some point someone might suggest Talking About It
(Even though Talking About Feelings Is Terrible.)
(But Necessary!)
Morgyn Leri
🙂
JabberwockyPie
Whereas when you have the team full of people with terrible childhoods, everyone is kind of like “… I dunno. How do interpersonal relationships work?” and then you get AoU and CW
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