sanerontheinside
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I’m just poking at an episode at slightly-less-than random and keeping to it if it sticks. tho, both Mac and Methos are currently inspiring a lot of _how the heck are you still alive_ questions

sanerontheinside
commented on sanerontheinside’s post “morgynleri replied to your post “1, 2, 10!” Ooh, Highlander! What…”

@morgynleri re: your tags—yyyyyeah I can see that my ‘attention span of a flea’ problem while watching shows is probably a good thing for my reception of Mac’s character

[most of my characters are based more on fanon than canon, probably, for the same reason o.o never considered that before]

Methos is alive because he has no fucks to give about most of the rules of the Game, avoids fighting other Immortals if at all possible, and prefers to shoot them, bury them, drop them down dry wells, or other means of incapacitating them until he can get far enough away that catching up is going to take months/years/centuries/millennia.

MacLeod is alive because he’s the main character of the show, and is lucky he hasn’t lost his head to someone who has fewer fucks to give about rules or to a woman because he’s a twit who thinks that fighting women is Wrong.

MacLeod also is one of those people who buys into the lie of purity culture that people who have done a Bad Thing in their past are always Bad People, and… well, Methos doesn’t try very hard to make him think otherwise*, but Methos is a Tired Old Man who has no fucks to give about this kid who thinks that their morals are absolute and anyone who has a different set is Wrong and Bad. And also does not have the spoons to keep hiding when creepy stalker exboyfriend comes around trying to gaslight him into becoming a bringer of the apocalypse again.

(There is something sad about him having to kill cuddly murder bear younger brother/student person in that fiasco, but in order to be rid of creepy stalker exboyfriend and serial killer cannibal that is probably crazypants because of him and said creepy stalker exboyfriend, so too must cuddly murder bear die.)

*”I didn’t just kill a hundred. I didn’t just kill a thousand. I killed ten thousand. I was Death on a horse. And I liked it. Is that what you want to hear?” – Methos, because fuck this “well, are you an evil person because you did these things that Cassandra mentioned?” bullshit.

(And as for Cassandra, I have mixed opinions about her, because yes, she is perfectly justified in being angry at Methos, even all these millennia later, and yes, it is well within her rights to never forgive him what he did to her, but also, getting someone else involved in her intent to murder Methos 3000 years later when there is evidence he’s changed since is not a good thing. I will not, however, argue that she was wrong in any way to do whatever it took to get rid of Kronos, because creepy stalker exboyfriend really really needed to die in order to stop him from continuing to attempt to destroy the world.)

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amara1783:

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ayeforscotland:

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pog-mo-bhlog:

ayeforscotland:

Scots = Plural of Scot, a person from Scotland.

Scott = Surname of Scottish origin

Scotts = Means FUCK ALL.

Scottish = pertaining to or about scotland

Scotch = whisky or broth. there is no other acceptable usage of this word.

are you against the term scotch-irish or something?

Scots-irish works just as well. Scotch is generally only used for produce and such.

I hate it when people call us Scots scotch.

We’re no made of whiskey. Or are we?

You’re gonna kick yersel’.

WhiskEy = Irish

Whisky = Scottish

For those asking earlier why it’s wrong to call the Scots “scotch” ^^^^^^^

I gather there are parts of Scotland where “Scotch” is the normal usage. But “Scots” has become the standard now. Certainly my grandmother used to say “Scotch is whisky, terriers, and sticky-tape. The people are Scots.”

It was a term often used at us, conflating us along with produce. So no, it’s not a term for people. Not if you’re trying to be polite.

I didn’t know this. Which is odd since Highlander was one of my first fandoms.

Also, I now want fic where Methos refers to Duncan as ‘scotch’ on purpose. Because he totally would.

And justifiably get his head kicked in for it 😀

*is scrolling through tumblr because last thing before bed, and sees Methos mentioned*

*facepalms*

Ok, so not exactly fic, @amara1783, but meta sort of outline of potential fic I’m not writing.

Methos would deliberately use the wrong word. Possibly to make a point, possibly to be an ass, and really, no one is quite sure which. And MacLeod, understandably, yells at him, and there are more words exchanged, and someone walks away. Or both of them, it really isn’t important.

Later, Duncan might happen to mention this incident to his dear cousin Connor, and Methos would get his head kicked in the next time he makes the mistake of being in the same general vicinity of Connor MacLeod, and wakes up from a temporary death to find Connor giving him a very decidedly unfriendly grin. Methos knows this does not mean there’s going to be an attempt to take his head. Life would probably be a lot simpler if that were the case.

Methos is probably going to spend the next century having a very hard time keeping a hold of aliases. Because while Duncan MacLeod might not be particularly inclined to being that sort of petty vindictive – he’s a pretty straight-forward kind of person on that front – he has plenty of friends who are that sort of petty vindictive, and Methos can be an absolute ass.

Eventually Methos apologizes, and MacLeod accepts, but it takes a while for everyone to get the memo that they’re on speaking terms again. This is not the first time this has happened, and it will not be the last, but then, you take someone who dragged himself from being death and chaos incarnate to being a mostly-decent person by sheer force of will…. well, there are bound to be incidents when one of his friends has a rather more rigid and life-long code of ethics and takes a while to wrap his mind around maybe not everyone who is decent now has always been so.

(This is not to say Methos is not flawed, and isn’t an ass at times. He is. He’s Methos. But he keeps trying to be better, and that’s why MacLeod eventually forgives him even the worst of the things MacLeod has learned about him. Because Methos at least tries. Even if it does take yelling at him sometimes to get through his head that he has done something wrong. He doesn’t make the same mistake twice.)

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Methos’ Sweater Chic in season 5

Never Ever – LadySilver – Highlander: The Series [Archive of Our Own]

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Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Highlander: The Series
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Characters: Methos (Highlander), Amy Brennan-Thomas, Joe Dawson, Duncan MacLeod
Additional Tags: Drunkeness, Joe’s Bar, Gods, Drinking Games, Fandom Stocking 2016, Gift Fic
Summary:

Methos has been it all and done it all. Just ask him.

And the last of the three ficlets I finished for this year’s fandom_stocking.

Snippet: Highlander

A bit from a story that’s probably never going anywhere, but was fun to write anyway, even unfinished.

AU: NOS
Characters: Methos, Duncan MacLeod, Zoya Selivestrova (OFC)

Zoya stays out of easy reach of either man while they talk, and Duncan introduces her. The sudden blankness of Methos’ face makes her tense and frown a little, wary and worried until he relaxes. She’s still not sure what to make of him, since all she has to go on is stories of a time thousands of years past. She glances at Duncan, curious herself what he wants, and willing to wait until the conversation has an opening she’s willing to use.

“The truth,” MacLeod says. “And I want to know *why*.” His voice breaks on the last word, and Methos can see the pain in his eyes. It stabs at him, and he has to look away.

“Things were different then, MacLeod. The whole bloody world was different. And so was I.” He glances at Zoya. If she was Silas’ student, she’s probably heard the worst of it already, so he takes a deep breath and continues. “I was so *angry*. I was already old, and so tired of losing everything I cared about over and over again; tired of disease and starvation and slaughter. And then I met Kronos. By the time I left the Horsemen, I could barely tell where he left off and where I began.”

It tells her a little about who he was, but Zoya isn’t as interested in that as Duncan is. Then, she’s heard a lot about the Horsemen from Silas, and she’s more curious about why someone her teacher respected so much never tried to contact him again. Why he’d walked off, and abandoned all of them – though she’s fairly certain it’s just as well in the case of Caspian and Kronos, from the stories Silas told her. “Did you have to leave them all behind to just get away from Kronos?” she asks quietly, though she’s more asking if he had to cut off contact with Silas than anything else.

“No. I had to do that to get away from myself,” Methos answers. “It was a long time before I could live with people again, instead of on the most isolated bit of Holy Ground I could find. I had to make a clean break of it.”

“Like an alcoholic, or a drug addict,” MacLeod murmurs. It’s startling, coming from him, and Methos can’t help the faint rush of hope that rises up in his chest.

“Exactly like,” he says, nodding at MacLeod. “The power – ” He closes his eyes for a second, taking a deep breath before reopening them. “The power is addictive. A clean break was the only way to go.” Glancing over at Zoya, he adds, “I do keep an eye on Silas, though. I have almost the entire time.”

She smiles at that, making a mental note to mention that the next time she went home. Zoya thinks it’s something Silas might appreciate knowing, if he thinks much about it. Glancing at the car behind Methos, she tilts her head. “You’re leaving to avoid losing yourself in it again, aren’t you?” A thought is brewing in the back of her mind, and she hesitates a moment before making the offer. “Perhaps, if you need to hide, you can come back home with me? Silas would probably like to see you again.”

The desire to accept Zoya’s offer is very nearly overwhelming. Methos would like nothing better than to be able to hide for a while, to have the pleasure of Silas’ uncomplicated companionship again.

Highlander liveblogging

morgynleri:

morgynleri:

morgynleri:

Continuing from yesterday, starting with the scene where Methos returns to where Kronos is staying. Also known as Methos is a little shit, and Kronos demonstrates he is sometimes really blind to some nuances of human nature. Like, don’t ask Methos to kill his friends. It’s dangerous.

Below a cut because this is getting long. It has a lot of dialogue I like.

Keep reading

… And here is where I want to drop a nice anvil on MacLeod. Although this is another bit with some favored lines. Under cut for length.

Keep reading

Nope, more anvils. Joe does make things better.

(And I know there’s a lot missing, because all this is transcribing is the dialogue, and the actions and everything do add nuance.)

“Joe, you can’t defend it.”

“I’m not defending it. I’m trying to understand it.”

“What’s there to understand? When he rode into a village, there was life. When he rode out, there wasn’t.”

“No. You weren’t there. Different times, MacLeod. Different rules, different morals. You can’t compare it.”

“I won’t compare it, and I can’t excuse it.”

“Yeah. How many men have you killed? How much blood have you shed in anger?”

“No. No. I know what I’ve done, and I live with it. But I’m telling you, this is different.”

“What the hell are you talking about?”

“I’m talking about a bunch of murdering bastards that burned and raped across two continents! They butchered innocent women and children, Joe! You live with that; you see that.”

(Oh, MacLeod, you idiot.)

“I have. Vietnam. When we took out a village, we couldn’t tell the farmers from the soldiers. You think somehow the bullets managed to miss all the children?”

“This is different.”

“How?”

“Because he loved it. Because he had pleasure in killing.”

(*sighs* At the time, yes, he probably did, at least for a while. But just because he enjoyed it then, MacLeod, you fucking twit, doesn’t mean he still does. Or that he doesn’t regret that part of his life now. People. Change. And Methos is the ultimate survivor. He changes as he needs to in order to fit into the morals of the culture in which he lives. Even if other people who are rigid in their moral beliefs don’t like that he does so.)

Methos does love his fire. And it’s an effective tool in this case. And you can see the change in him, the calculated loosening of stance, the way he used the fire to manipulate the outcome, the annoyance in the gesture of throwing the belt of Cassandra’s coat after her into the water (his annoyance over all the shit he’s trying to cope with).

Also, Cassandra just. Can’t let the idea of “must kill them both/all” go. Which by itself, not necessarily a bad thing. But when expressed in front of Duncan “judge, jury, and executioner” MacLeod? Then it becomes a bad thing.

Cassandra needs therapy and a safe place. Kronos needs to be kept away from the rest of the world, and MacLeod needs to get the stick out of his ass.

*sighs*

Highlander liveblogging

morgynleri:

morgynleri:

Continuing from yesterday, starting with the scene where Methos returns to where Kronos is staying. Also known as Methos is a little shit, and Kronos demonstrates he is sometimes really blind to some nuances of human nature. Like, don’t ask Methos to kill his friends. It’s dangerous.

Below a cut because this is getting long. It has a lot of dialogue I like.

Keep reading

… And here is where I want to drop a nice anvil on MacLeod. Although this is another bit with some favored lines. Under cut for length.

Keep reading

Nope, more anvils. Joe does make things better.

(And I know there’s a lot missing, because all this is transcribing is the dialogue, and the actions and everything do add nuance.)

“Joe, you can’t defend it.”

“I’m not defending it. I’m trying to understand it.”

“What’s there to understand? When he rode into a village, there was life. When he rode out, there wasn’t.”

“No. You weren’t there. Different times, MacLeod. Different rules, different morals. You can’t compare it.”

“I won’t compare it, and I can’t excuse it.”

“Yeah. How many men have you killed? How much blood have you shed in anger?”

“No. No. I know what I’ve done, and I live with it. But I’m telling you, this is different.”

“What the hell are you talking about?”

“I’m talking about a bunch of murdering bastards that burned and raped across two continents! They butchered innocent women and children, Joe! You live with that; you see that.”

(Oh, MacLeod, you idiot.)

“I have. Vietnam. When we took out a village, we couldn’t tell the farmers from the soldiers. You think somehow the bullets managed to miss all the children?”

“This is different.”

“How?”

“Because he loved it. Because he had pleasure in killing.”

(*sighs* At the time, yes, he probably did, at least for a while. But just because he enjoyed it then, MacLeod, you fucking twit, doesn’t mean he still does. Or that he doesn’t regret that part of his life now. People. Change. And Methos is the ultimate survivor. He changes as he needs to in order to fit into the morals of the culture in which he lives. Even if other people who are rigid in their moral beliefs don’t like that he does so.)

Highlander liveblogging

morgynleri:

Continuing from yesterday, starting with the scene where Methos returns to where Kronos is staying. Also known as Methos is a little shit, and Kronos demonstrates he is sometimes really blind to some nuances of human nature. Like, don’t ask Methos to kill his friends. It’s dangerous.

Below a cut because this is getting long. It has a lot of dialogue I like.

Keep reading

… And here is where I want to drop a nice anvil on MacLeod. Although this is another bit with some favored lines. Under cut for length.

“Going somewhere?”

“You shouldn’t be here.”

“What are you running from? The question or the answer?”

“There is no answer, MacLeod. Let it be.”

“Is what she said true?”

“I’m outta here.”

“No. No you’re not, you’re not out of here. Is what she said true?”

“It’s… The times were different, MacLeod, I was different, the whole bloody world was different, ok?”

(And MacLeod looks all stoically angry and trying to be threatening, and all I want to do is seriously hit him in the face with a baseball bat. Dude, get over yourself, you are not judge and jury.)

“Did you kill all those people?”

“Yes. Is that what you want to hear? Killing was all I knew; is that what you want to hear?”

“It’s enough.”

(And still with the judgey face, and you’re annoying Methos, and he has enough shit from Kronos to put up with, and you’re not giving him any way to get out of where he is, and he can’t tell you because he knows you won’t give a damn, and fuck you, MacLeod.)

“No. It is not enough. I killed. But I didn’t just kill fifty, I didn’t kill a hundred. I killed a thousand, I killed ten thousand. And I was good at it. And it wasn’t for vengeance. It wasn’t for greed. It was because I liked it. Cassandra was nothing. Her village was nothing. Do you know who I was? I was Death.”

(And there’s pushing MacLeod over the edge, yes, Methos, you are a little shit, we all know this, and you are looking for an escape from Kronos, and you don’t know if you want to send MacLeod in a righteous fury against Kronos or have him kill you, and either will do, won’t it?)

"Death. Death on a horse. When mothers warned their children the monster would get them, that monster was me. I was the nightmare that kept them awake at night. Is that what you want to hear? The answer is yes. Oh, yes.”

aniseandspearmint:

morgynleri:

aniseandspearmint:

morgynleri:

aniseandspearmint:

morgynleri:

deadcatwithaflamethrower:

vampireapologist:

vampireapologist:

Honestly in all of these stories these poetic white men who somehow end up immortal get so bored and miserable because they just sit in their mansion all day doing whatever it is they need to do in order to sustain their immortality and then they just throw lavish parties and organize orgies or whatever and then they’re like “why am I sad I eat three course meals and have at least one orgy daily what MORE could I POSSIBLY need??”

Like???? Damn go for a walk. Do you even KNOW your neighbors? Get a dog and take it to the park. Set up an elaborate fish tank. Go skiing like you’ve been alive for 200 years and you’ve spent 180 of it in your house looking at paintings and drinking wine with other rich assholes no wonder ur life sucks my man.

Buy a canoe.

this post was specifically targeting dorian grey.

Are you–are you SURE it was just Dorian? Because I thought a lot about Highlander version. 2′s moping for 6 television seasons.

… There’s reasons I don’t like ~~That Annoying Twit~~ Duncan MacLeod. Everyone else is either forgettable or fun, but him. *quietly sits on the urge to strangle a character from a show that ended twenty years ago*

I know, right? Thank god for Methos, Amanda, and Richie (and Joe!). They saved that show from being Duncan’s 90s angst blog.

So. Much.

Other than the Horsemen episodes (OMG, people change, and sometimes people you love aren’t always nice, and this makes me So. Mad…. *thwaps Duncan with a heavy stick* People change. People get better, deal with it, you over-honorable twit.), my favorite episodes are the two without Duncan anywhere near them in the 6th season.

Two of Hearts (which is where I get my “Susan Ivanova is Immortal, and just the latest lifetime of Katherine” headcanon), and whatever the hell the other one was called which was the Joe-and-Methos show. I would have loved more of a show like that. Joe and Methos snarking at each other, having adventures, slice-of-life sort of thing.

(Maybe too, a chance to see them develop Amy, Joe’s daughter into a primary character, and center the whole thing on the Watchers, instead of the Immortals? And thus have a show with a disabled protagonist and a female protagonist, and ok, still very white, but dude, it was the 90s, and they could have used that as a point to make it even better. *sighs*)

It’s been a good few years since i’ve seen the show, but i remember being so confused by Duncan being upset with Methos for having been an eeeevil marauder thousands of years ago.

It was THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO. Duncan is a measly three hundred to Methos’s five thousand (a number i strongly suspect is not accurate in the least) and has yet to learn that people can change over the course of time, some for the good, others for the bad. He never seemed to think less of Darius, and Darius didn’t even change of his own accord!

Ugh, the man was born with a stick of righteousness shoved so far up his ass it’s coming out the top of his head.

There were glimpses occasionally of a better version of the character, mostly in the books, but over all Duncan

MacLeod

was one of those insufferably annoying characters that had an incomprehensible timeline, knew too many famous people, and could always pull some new skill out of his ass to save the day all while looking down on those less ‘honorable’ then himself.

Fanon Duncan is usually better, and there is a frankly AWESOME recast/reboot thing here: Princes of The Universe: A Highlander Series Reboot by gigglingkat. That features the Duncan

MacLeod

we all deserve, among other excellent recasts.

*bookmarks that work for later perusal of more than the pretty pictures*

Methos has probably been saying he’s five thousand for at least three thousand years, if not more. Legends like that have a habit of not changing even after long periods of time, so Methos is – no doubt in my mind – far older than he claims. For various values of older.

And, yeah, I really don’t get Duncan’s upset, save as a byproduct of his being the protagonist and always getting to be right. Which. Dude. No. The man is not always right, because the man forgets the world isn’t binary, and can’t see past that binary thinking of his.

There’s a reason I don’t write him much, even from the point-of-view of others. I dislike him so much I tend to paint him as the bad guy… or I kill him. I have an AU I was recently rereading, and will probably play with again once I rewatch the show and also go reading up on Dracula again, in which Duncan is going to end up a head shorter, sooner or later. Or at least he was, though who knows how it will go if I rework it.

*coos and pets AU* Yeah, one of the big things in gigglingkat’s AU is that she changed the title and thus shifted the focus from Duncan to immortals in general. Duncan is still a driving force, but he’s a very different character and is capable of being wrong. The sun does not shine out his arse, lol. (Drop me a line once you have a chance to read it if you want to talk about it. ^_^)

I would adore it for that alone, but she also decided to give a viable REASON for the ‘holy ground’ rule, which always bugged the hell out of me.

There’s also some lovely scientific reasoning behind the existence of immortals, which is neat.

That fic you’re working on sounds interesting! Dracula is always interesting to read about!

It’s so good to see that idea, and I suspect I am going to enjoy the AU so much, when I get to reading it. 🙂 And applying science to Immortals and everything is fantastic.

*grins* Dracula is one of Kronos’s saner students, though he has his own issues, because Dracula, but still. (Dracula is very, very fond of certain new technologies, and has been playing with electronics and computers since their infancy, and is the source for Kronos’s security systems and electronic lab equipment in the AU.)

When I post any of it, it’s probably going to get the tag “au: the student”.

aniseandspearmint:

morgynleri:

aniseandspearmint:

morgynleri:

deadcatwithaflamethrower:

vampireapologist:

vampireapologist:

Honestly in all of these stories these poetic white men who somehow end up immortal get so bored and miserable because they just sit in their mansion all day doing whatever it is they need to do in order to sustain their immortality and then they just throw lavish parties and organize orgies or whatever and then they’re like “why am I sad I eat three course meals and have at least one orgy daily what MORE could I POSSIBLY need??”

Like???? Damn go for a walk. Do you even KNOW your neighbors? Get a dog and take it to the park. Set up an elaborate fish tank. Go skiing like you’ve been alive for 200 years and you’ve spent 180 of it in your house looking at paintings and drinking wine with other rich assholes no wonder ur life sucks my man.

Buy a canoe.

this post was specifically targeting dorian grey.

Are you–are you SURE it was just Dorian? Because I thought a lot about Highlander version. 2′s moping for 6 television seasons.

… There’s reasons I don’t like ~~That Annoying Twit~~ Duncan MacLeod. Everyone else is either forgettable or fun, but him. *quietly sits on the urge to strangle a character from a show that ended twenty years ago*

I know, right? Thank god for Methos, Amanda, and Richie (and Joe!). They saved that show from being Duncan’s 90s angst blog.

So. Much.

Other than the Horsemen episodes (OMG, people change, and sometimes people you love aren’t always nice, and this makes me So. Mad…. *thwaps Duncan with a heavy stick* People change. People get better, deal with it, you over-honorable twit.), my favorite episodes are the two without Duncan anywhere near them in the 6th season.

Two of Hearts (which is where I get my “Susan Ivanova is Immortal, and just the latest lifetime of Katherine” headcanon), and whatever the hell the other one was called which was the Joe-and-Methos show. I would have loved more of a show like that. Joe and Methos snarking at each other, having adventures, slice-of-life sort of thing.

(Maybe too, a chance to see them develop Amy, Joe’s daughter into a primary character, and center the whole thing on the Watchers, instead of the Immortals? And thus have a show with a disabled protagonist and a female protagonist, and ok, still very white, but dude, it was the 90s, and they could have used that as a point to make it even better. *sighs*)

It’s been a good few years since i’ve seen the show, but i remember being so confused by Duncan being upset with Methos for having been an eeeevil marauder thousands of years ago.

It was THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO. Duncan is a measly three hundred to Methos’s five thousand (a number i strongly suspect is not accurate in the least) and has yet to learn that people can change over the course of time, some for the good, others for the bad. He never seemed to think less of Darius, and Darius didn’t even change of his own accord!

Ugh, the man was born with a stick of righteousness shoved so far up his ass it’s coming out the top of his head.

There were glimpses occasionally of a better version of the character, mostly in the books, but over all Duncan

MacLeod

was one of those insufferably annoying characters that had an incomprehensible timeline, knew too many famous people, and could always pull some new skill out of his ass to save the day all while looking down on those less ‘honorable’ then himself.

Fanon Duncan is usually better, and there is a frankly AWESOME recast/reboot thing here: Princes of The Universe: A Highlander Series Reboot by gigglingkat. That features the Duncan

MacLeod

we all deserve, among other excellent recasts.

*bookmarks that work for later perusal of more than the pretty pictures*

Methos has probably been saying he’s five thousand for at least three thousand years, if not more. Legends like that have a habit of not changing even after long periods of time, so Methos is – no doubt in my mind – far older than he claims. For various values of older.

And, yeah, I really don’t get Duncan’s upset, save as a byproduct of his being the protagonist and always getting to be right. Which. Dude. No. The man is not always right, because the man forgets the world isn’t binary, and can’t see past that binary thinking of his.

There’s a reason I don’t write him much, even from the point-of-view of others. I dislike him so much I tend to paint him as the bad guy… or I kill him. I have an AU I was recently rereading, and will probably play with again once I rewatch the show and also go reading up on Dracula again, in which Duncan is going to end up a head shorter, sooner or later. Or at least he was, though who knows how it will go if I rework it.